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Well I think we can all agree after 15 mins that this is the shit show that Sacks did not anticipate getting himself in the middle of
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Im half waiting for Tracey to say the DOW is over 50k
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The fact that there are Epstein apologists is insane
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Investigate Michael Tracey
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Michael Tracey is a striking case of missing the forest for the trees.
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Find someone that loves you like Michael Tracy loves Jeffrey Epstein
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Solo Sacks. I need a glass of the finest wine in all the land for this!
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* This was recorded prior to SCOTUS tariff decision - we will discuss next week!
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Using the word mythology is using verbage that will divorce people from consequences.
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Long time lover of All In, this is easily the low point. Tracey comes off badly and shouldn’t been allowed the floor unchallenged. Run this again when the boys aren’t on a ‘ski trip’ and get Whitney Webb on
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What a disappointmen this podcast was, including David Sacks. All-In will claim they discussed the issue and that it's "settled" with this episode, even though most of it was polluted with Michael Tracey arguing over the most minute details when there were much more larger & pressing Epstein issues to be discussed.
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Please do no ever invite Michael Tracey on again. Disgusting man
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Hour of my life I'll never get back. Michael Tracey is the most 'content-less' person I've ever seen. Please never bring him back. He won't shut up and has nothing to say. You loast control of this one David.
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Why is this video titled “Epstein Mythology”?
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Thank you for having Saagar Enjeti on the show. Wish he could have presented without constant bizarre misrepresentations by the other guest.
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How did you guys possibly think it was a good idea to give Michael Tracy this platform... this is probably the worst all-in podcast I've ever seen
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Literally the first episode of the entire All In series that I could not watch the whole episode. That was painful and a joke. No moderation
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Having Michael on was a genuine insult to your audience and a waste of our time. This is by far your worst episode and a terrible judgement call for the entire show.
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I’m all for a lively debate, the talking over one another is a turn off.
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Michael Tracey clearly has an agenda, then cherry picks info to bend public perception into thinking it’s all a hoax. He sounds like a total op.
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Wtf is this episode?
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What a coincidence that three besties all had ski trip guessing they wanted nothing to do with this show
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Why are pedophiles being covered for? WTF is this?
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This is exactly the example to show how difficult it is for the victims to get justice. As soon as they are not perfect, they are not victims.
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Michael Tracey is only 37. Most shocking part of this video.
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This Tracey fella monopolizes the convo and is very suspicious
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Michael Tracy is insufferable. At times I felt physical pain listening to him. He’s more angry at the media feeding frenzy and distortions than the shady stuff that did take place. He can’t see the forest ‘cause all those damn trees are in the way. And he doesn’t really want to. But Michael does have one point. Most allegations of pedophilia are wholly unsupported. While some girls were under age, the vast majority were consenting adults. You can argue back-and-forth, whether it was prostitution or not. Most of the underage girls were compensated years ago. They have no reason to speak out now. For everything else, the lack of prosecutable evidence is an obstacle to press charges, which explains the total lack of prosecutions. Still, there’s a hell of a lot of stinky stuff there worthy of investigation.
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Michael Tracey is a paid fixer. R Kelly should have hired him
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Michael Tracy is obviously on the take
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I’m not going to sit here and be lied to about this for two hours. Enjoy.
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Saagar hits the bullseye by destroying the “there was no network” narrative with concrete patterns: the justice system, intel markers, Wexner money, and elite protection. Tracey veers into hallucination‑level relativism by dismissing those patterns as “Epstein mythology,” while the documentation clearly points to more than one lone pervert. Sacks is narrowly, selectively outraged: he goes hard after Hoffman and Dem‑aligned elites but soft‑pedals the implications for his MAGA/tech friends, using “double standards” rhetoric to muffle damaging facts for his own camp. (my objective assessment). Thanks.
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Timestamps: Yelling More yelling
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The Reid Hoffman highlights are always a nice reminder on where people like Sacks draw their lines
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TY for having Saagar on!! One of the best journalists out there today
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Billionaire damage control.
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Hoffman asking for ice cream is odd. He went to island and ranch. He should explain himself
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The depth of the Reid Hoffman relationship with Epstein explains why the previous administration never did anything on the files. Hoffman is one of, maybe the top, donor to the Democrat party.
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In the words of Johnathan Swift "Laws are like cobwebs, which may catch small flies, but let wasps and hornets break through.”
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I can appreciate being a stickler for the truth and holding people accountable for what is said, but I think this guy has lost the plot in pursuit of that end.
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Hard to listen when they can’t let each other finish a thought.
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All in staff, take note for your bosses: This was the lowest point in the history of this podcast
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why is this made into a 50/50 debate? A range of viewpoints? Pretending it's about child cannibalism? This is all distraction. What's the evidence. What's the core? I'm struggling to trust Sacks or All-in on this debate at all.
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Why are you all giving JE credit for reaching out about Bitcoin when an Intel agency probably asked him to look into it
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None of the clients wil ever face justice. There is a law for the rich and a law for the poor. And Israel has deep pockets, that they've filled with US taxpayer's money.
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the selection of representatives for each "side" gives away the whole op imo.
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So Michael Tracey is claiming there is an evil global conspiracy of greedy conniving media manipulators such as VRG, who is still alive, to profit from hapless victims like Epstein and Prince Andrew? He can’t see truth before their eyes because they’re so desperate to be contrarian.
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They are guilty of being complicit and so are you Michael.
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I had to fast forward Michael speaking. Whatever side of the argument you sit on, listening to someone shout is annoying. Sagar was brilliant.
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Over the years, I have come to real realize that David Sachs, pure evil.. hosting this discussion and giving the pro Epstein guy this platform just goes on to prove that David Sacks does not have pure intention intentions.
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Bro this guy is defending Bill Clinton, really? He was only ever inappropriate in the White House, ok my guy. A lot of the emails speak for themselves. Read the ones with Katya Gusarova. They literally detail Epstein flying her in to exchange sex and when Epstein blows her off he sex traffics her to Steve Tisch. There is not code words it’s clearly shown in those emails. So I heard Epstein ate Selena Gomez’s baby yeah definitely fake but that doesn’t mean it all is and all the victims lied.
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Like 10 minutes in and I can’t believe these guys have dedicated so much of their life to this guy
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Here for saagar 🤙
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The title of the video "Epstein mythology" is so revealing about how badly they want this story to go away
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Who pays you Michael? WHO PAYS YOU 😂
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Saagar best guest ever
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It's like throwing a piece of steak in a pool full of piranhas.
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Lost on Mr Tracey is the natural, and healthy, tendency to question contradiction once it is recognised. Agree on danger of making assumptions, but his froth runs over and weakens his stance. Anyone telling lies in process of distancing themselves will obviously attract follow-up questions. Tracey thinks otherwise - for all his warning of blindly accepting testimony from certain people in this case he wants to attack those who have valid questions of the likes of Hoffman.
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Thirty four minutes then a lot of protection of the wealthy simple, i'm not sure how this guy's paid, but he's for nothing happened. The guy died in jail mysteriously.Okay, very similar to how putin gets rid of all of his generals.
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This was an absolute disaster, David. Michael was clearly running “low-IQ” defense for Jeffrey Epstein. He reminds me of a Mentat from Dune, one that they have Kompromat on 😂
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Nothing like figuring out any way possible to protect/excuse Epstein and cast doubt on/discredit victims. How do you sleep at night???
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A job as a math teacher, albeit in a pampered school like Dalton in UES Manhattan, or a job at Bear Stearns no matter how good a trader was doesn't add up to over a half billion dollars in net worth. And why would a savvy businessman like Wexner give up a large part of his fortune to someone like Epstein unless he had something on the old man or either Jeff or Les or both were a part of the CIA/Mossad nexus to achieve the agencies' agendas around the world for the grifter class. Something is rotten in the state of Denmark!
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I bet Friedberg couldn't get through 15 minutes of this
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Michael is wholly unbelievable. His message is classic “rape is the women’s fault”. No respect for the victims of assault, rape Prostitution, trafficking.
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A podcast minimizing the crimes of pedo elites....really makes you think.
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i like Sacks, but i think this is where JCal has credence to self-proclaimed best podcast moderator title
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Nice 1hr 47 minute defense of Epstien 👏
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This whole entire debate obfuscates from the fact that Epstein is clearly some kind of intel mercenary at the least and a foreign intel asset at worst. I unlike many others watched the Steve Bannon Epstein interview and found nothing intelligent about this man the fact that Bannon wants to present him as some kind of financial tax guru is just ridiculous I lost 1:50 of my life. The fact that the DOJ is going so far to cover up the files by claiming they are still doing investigations and that’s why they can’t release the files is honestly insane to me. If there’s nothing in the files just release them to prove everyone wrong why do all of this performative stuff, especially after this administration ran on releasing the files.
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This is an absolutely brutal watch. These guys aren’t it… Needed a Sacks Solo pod lol
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Love the POD, could not get past 10 minutes had to turn it off!
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Clearly this program upset those infused with the Mob Narrative.
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Like watching a high speed ping pong match.
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Michael saying he’s never said, “There’s nothing to see here,” struck a chord because independently as I’m listening to the conversation (or rather, Michael never letting anyone finish a sentence or thought without interrupting with his “more important” opinion), I was EXACTLY THINKING, “He’s arguing there is nothing to see here.” So, Michael, that’s what your argument sounds like. It may not be your intent. I think your point is accurate and important. Nobody seems interested in following the money into the lawyers’ and their clients’ pockets. And that’s a miscarriage of justice, absolutely. We should be raising that concern loudly. But it is another thing entirely to say that 20-yr old women had consensual sex with powerful, wealthy men in their 40s, 50s, etc. There is a power dynamic that cannot be ignored and those men ARE responsible for exploiting that power dynamic. When you, or anyone else, minimize that fact, it’s also a miscarriage of justice.
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One of your biggest fans all in. I've been listening since episode 10 and the only episode I've ever stopped listening to.
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The fact that David Sachs would choose Michael Tracey is a major statement to the twisted way David views the political system.
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The only podcasts and videos I can find on this topic are the most extreme takes about a global conspiracy. Nice to hear another perspective even though I disagree somewhat with the conclusions. Thank you for sharing this content. I’m sure it was done knowing a huge backlash would come from a significant portion of the audience (despite Sacks clearly making a point to push back on the “nothing to see hear vibe” from the guest)
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On Michael: “Methinks the lady doth protest too much.” Thank you, Sacks.❤
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Nobody hurts Tracey’s credibility more than Tracey. He is absolutely horrible at being interviewed
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“I’m not implicating him any crime”, but came out to smear his reputation….. 😂😂
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Good show
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David Sacks forgot to repeat the question from Tara Palmeri, to Michael Tracey, which was asked on Piers Morgan, but for some reason, Michael couldn't hear it. Tara: "A lot of people are wondering this. Are you being paid by any of the men accused by Jeffrey Epstein?" Michael: crickets....crickets...." I can't hear you " "I wish I could respond to whatever nonsense she just blurted out."
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Solo Sacks was such a turn off to begin with...but that psycho Michael takes the cake! His baseline is like sad and angry! Doing such a great job at minimizing this scandal about elites. Simply incredible.
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Thanks, David. Thank you for opening my eyes to new angles. I will say all I know about the case is what I hear. I’ve never done any research to see if anybody’s telling the truth.
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Michael speaks loudly when it’s unnecessary and feigns confusion about the definitions of straightforward topics; all while talking over people. It’s a great recipe for debate.
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I genuinely enjoyed listening to Tracy. Everything else is consensus. Good to hear a contrarian view.
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Finally but it's telling that the rest of the crew is on "ski week". You get all the cool points this week Saks
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Jason, the best moderator in the world, could have saved this episode 😢😂
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Thankfully I read the comments before listening. Won’t waste my time.
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Ways to help: Learn the signs of abuse and of trafficking. Most teens are not lured by mysterious millionaires. They are lured by family, friends of friends, teachers, coaches, etc. Unexplained gifts, new clothes or money, or sudden change in behavior can be a warning sign.
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Interesting episode, wish more of the besties were able to have input (or at least voices that present arguments/opinions and can be judged on their the merit, rather than how loud/aggressive it's delivered). But some interesting perspectives on the whole topic that I wasn't aware of and makes me look at the various traditional media stories with more skepticism... Definitely a worthwhile listen!
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This was a great episode LMAO im all for it
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They are All-In it.
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This is the first, and hopefully last, time I ever see this Michael Tracey fella. I cannot believe people like this exist.
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Didnt know if I was going to be able to watch it after seeing Saagar and Michael continue to banter but so glad I did. Found the other side of the debate very interesting. Thanks Michael!
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I honestly like the subtle jabs from Saager. Highly entertaining watching the battle of narratives
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Michael Tracy brings up some good points I haven’t considered. Notably, possible incentives for victims to falsify testimony and media incentives such as driving clicks and impressions to their gated site/article. Sensational stories like these make us all emotional and wanting justice, and I can see how the media might be preying on us all while not being honest. It’s also fascinating that no one’s been prosecuted because of a lack of evidence outside of hearsay in these files. With that said, I eagerly want justice for these victims who were abused and taken advantage of. Especially for any co-conspirators who may have murdered victims. It appears there’s evidence of that in these files and that’s just beyond disturbing. I say a thorough investigation is desperately needed of everyone mentioned in these files. No one is above the law. Regardless of victims or media stretching the truth, there’s clearly a tremendous amount of merit to these files that exposes sinister behavior in the leaders we look up to. It warrants investigations at a minimum, and then any evidence uncovered needs to be brought to court to bring justice.
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Loved this podcast. Great job bringing on Michael Tracey, I know and love saarger and we need this scrutiny on all issues. Nobody smart wants to float in a bubble.
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I am amazed how these lawyers can spit out words so quickly without breathing, and yet just for arguing over a case that they agree upon 99.9% of the details.
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Thank you Saagar and Ryan grim etc for doing some real journalism on this... Micheal has an incredible Alan Dershowitz impression.
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Thank you David for presenting this balanced discussion. I wish the the truth could all just come out and be evaluated and then be left alone so that we could address the far more substantive issues we face.
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This conversation is really good, but the arguments are hilarious 😂😂😂.
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“Michael, I’d love for you to just grapple with the facts” perfect.
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We prefer the og bestie gang! Button
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great to see that Kevin Bass has found something to do after failing med school